Sorry to interrupt here, but are you referring to the kind of thing that series wikis have on their episode pages? If so then it might be possible to have the list of links as well as the next/previous thing. It would just require a change to the template to add parameters that must be filled in when it's added to the page. This would also be a good opportunity to make the list neater.
No problem! I love to greet all of the new users I can! And I'm sure whenever you hang around the wiki you'll find some more great people here too! So have a good time! And remember, if you need any help, I'm here! And so are all other staff members!
Hey Wolf! I remember you! Nice to see you've made a return to the wiki. And I'm doing fine actually. Wiki's been a bit rough every now and then since I became the only admin around most the time, but I'm doing alright. How about you?
I would just like to say that there is lots of precedent saying that someone shouldn't be punished or rewarded for doing something outside of the Wiki. For example, when IrishGamer deleted the Wiki YouTube channel, he was not punished, because as Darth said, "It is not right to block someone on Wikia simply because they did something on other platforms. Until and unless they do so, we won't block them." Another time is when Darth said to Kayli that being a staff member on WikiCraft doesn't automatically give her any authority here, or something of the sort. Please do keep past precedent in mind in this discussion, as it is very important to keep with it. If precedent is broken from here, eventually other precedents may be broken from, and this starts a huge domino effect, ending in a lot of chaos. As this scenario is not mentioned in the rules, past precedent must be examined closely, or it would be akin to not punishing someone who breaks the rules for the appropriate amount of time. Also, please do give me a fair trial, and actually speak to the accused parties to understand their motivations. These are my only requests.
So insulting me and Holroy, calling the other staff annoying, and basically admitting that the only reason you stay on the wiki is to become an admin, is the same as what happened with Irish and Kayli? I don't think there needs to be anything in the rules about behaving the way you did.
I wasn't calling every staff member annoying, just you and Holroy. And when did I admit that I stayed for ranks? The answer is that I didn't, and that is a lie, retract that statement at once. I am not referencing what occurred with Irish and Kayli, I am referencing what happened when Irish deleted the Wiki YouTube, and insulted the entire Wiki. And considering how they both occurred outside the Wiki, yes, I think they are more or less equivalent. And if expressing one's feelings about someone influential publically is cause for being banned, that is akin to being in a banana republic.
You said, and I quote, "The staff of the MCPE Wiki are proving really annoying right now." Only afterwards did you specify anything about me and Holroy.
And I will not retract that statement. A while ago you started talking about leaving on one of the versions of BTUAY, but decided not to. Then Rith announced the admin elections would happen and suddenly you were active again, and concerned about whether they would still happen when he went inactive again.
You seem certain that you will become an admin, according to your tweets, and all talk of leaving has stopped since the announcement of the elections.
And I don't believe the two situations are the same at all. Similar, maybe, but let's not overlook that Irish did not take to Twitter for an immature rant about how he isn't getting his way and that makes us idiots for not believing you.
Most staff here are fine, a lot of them are even quite amazing. It's just you two who get under my skin all the time. I seem to recall you saying not to discuss matters such as leaving on game threads a while ago, and I did so. The last time I discussed this stuff was in June. The Admin elections were announced quite a bit later, to be sure. The reason for asking was mainly curiosity, since if something is supposed to happen but doesn't, you can be sure I'll wonder what happened to that. I have been discussing leaving in places other than the Wiki, such as on Discord with ex-Rollback HerobrineAC0318. My activity is something which fluctuates, you cannot expect a pattern with how active I am and elections. You're confusing correlation with causation here. Something which has stopped me from leaving here was the Update Aquatic. You can ask Herobrine if this is true. I can provide screenshots showing that all of this is true. Anger is hard to keep bottled up, and doing so can be harmful. I've often failed to get my way in the past and done nothing, this is different just because my way makes sense. Notice how I'm going along with your way in public, and not complaining too much in public.
I've been looking at the Harry Potter Wiki recently, mainly to find info about characters, and in doing so, I noticed that they talked about stuff which was never specified by Rowling, and then had small footnotes saying why they assumed this. For example, they said that pure-blood supremacists consider Muggles dirty because many nicknames for Muggles are associated with filth, and they are often called "filthy Mudblood", etc. This approach intrigued me, and seems like a good solution to this issue. Their approach seems extremely logical. To use an analogy, they're explaining why 2+2=4, not just saying that 2+2=4, or saying we can't know that 2+2=4.
Just to chip in, I'm also feeling this personal attack on me and RedstoneDemigod to be extremely relevant for this wiki, even though done in Twitter. It is the last in a long line of actions from PvPMaster2001 which indicates that he's not fit for his staff position.
Here is a few of these actions:
In the early days there was multiple comments related to how PvpMaster2001 editing borderlined to edit farming. He was given the benefits of the doubts.
Despite this, the activity level has risen substantially whenever an election has been discusssed or mentioned. Could be random, but statistics would count against it.
PvPMaster2001 supported violating the COPPA when supporting that HerobrineAC0318 admitted to being underage, even after being told by numerous parties that if we allowed that we would risk the entire Wiki being shut down.
Numerous times, albeit not so much lately, PvPMaster has been pushing personal, wiki-related and political agendas refusing to listen to staffs advice that this doesn't belong in the game threads.
Regarding rank status, there has not been any staff so clearly boosting his rank and indicating how he has become a staff member. Clearly going past the assigned duties of his role as rollback, and using the role trying to propel his own status in the community.
PvPMaster2001 been holding a grudge against me and RedstoneDemigod for quite some time now, which is now revealed out in the public (where it'll stay for ever) without mentioning that he did so. How much he's been talking negatively about us in other public or private fora remains unknown.
He has openly in this tweet and earlier comments indicated that using sockpuppets to achieve a goal is OK. Aka violating rules and regulations to achieve goals is good.
Regarding the Update Aquatic we've tried to convince him that it's not equal to 1.3, which even the Community Manager (HelenAngel) doesn't say, and she further says they're completely redoing the version numbering plans so she honestly doesn't know the version number of Update Aquatic. He has still persisted to speculate, instead of providing good solid information.
To top it all of, in this thread he's trying to excuse himself as this tweet is not related to the wiki, and that he is the victim? And that he deserves an apology from RedstoneDemigod?
Well, enough is enough, and this latest insult is for me just the tip of the iceberg indicating that he shouldn't be a member of staff.
I was a new user, and I thought it was better to edit each section individually as opposed to a full edit. When Darth told me of this mistake, I immediately corrected it, and have not done so since.
Once again, correlation and causation are being confused. My activity fluctuates with the times. One real causation is that, for example, the Format Policy was being initiated exactly when the Rollback election was taking place. When my activity went down recently, it's because of schoolwork, and the fact that now I'm actually kinda popular, and I originally joined because I didn't have many friends, so I decided to get online friends instead.
At the time, I was surprised he was leaving. I mean, he had told me over Discord just before that, but I thought he meant I in like a few weeks, not a few minutes. I also wanted stability in the Wiki, rather than a huge overturn all at once. And change the word numerous to zero, and that sentence will be correct, as no one ever told me so, and I never pushed my opinion.
I have not done so in the past few months, and when requested to stop, I did so.
Going past my assigned duties? I've been reverting a few edits and warning the occasional user, is that not what I am supposed to be doing? At times I feel that I've only gained a cool username color as a result of my promotion.
Disliking a staff member is something perfectly acceptable and fine. If I disagree with your actions, you cannot punish me for having an opinion, it's a basic human right. I attempt not to speak negatively about staff members in public, this was the only time I've done so. Privately, there's only 1 person I even discuss stuff with, and that is HerobrineAC0318, and most of the time it's discussing math or school stuff, since he doesn't care about the Wiki any more.
This is false. Using sockpuppets to achieve a goal is most certainly not okay. Being able to avoid detection if you hypothetically do so is okay though.
I didn't see any information from HelenAngel, I've been checking her Twitter for the past few days, and nothing. Your other evidence has been that we don't know for sure, which is not convincing to me.
The tweet does not relate to the Wiki, and it doesn't effect how I do my job as a Rollback. Now, were I a Discussions Mod or Admin, I would see your point, but I am not. Asking someone to retract a statement they made which was a lie is perfectly acceptable, and if this occurs in the real world you could be sued for defamation or libel. I do not see why we should not be held to the same standards online, just because there is no threat of being sued.
That must be a very small iceberg then if this is the tip. Or maybe a very small tip...Oh God, now I'm imagining a ship sailing, the captain being informed that there are no icebergs in sight, and then right afterwards they hit an iceberg, which they could not see because the tip was like 1/2 a millimeter across or something...
I think I phrased that, like, really badly. What I was trying to say was that expressing that you believe if you create another account that you wouldn't get caught is fine. Actually creating one is not. If you get caught though, you shouldn't have been saying anything, and you will deserve the punishment you get.
Hiya! I was wondering if it was time the wiki's name was changed. 1.2 has been out for a month now, and even the devs are just referring to PE as Bedrock/Bedrock Edition. So, would you be fine with making the request for the URL to be changed to Bedrock or Bedrock Edition? A quick vote could be held to decide which one.
And for the wordmark, I was thinking it would be good advertising to use the logo for the Update Aquatic. I've seen on other wikis how they use the logo for the latest trend related to them as the wordmark, while keeping the wiki name in the white text. What do you think?
Well, for one, I think changing the Pocket Edition to "Bedrock Edition" would be alright. I think it is about time that's changed. But a vote would be good anyway. To see what the majority call for. As for the wordmark option. I agree, I do think that would be a good idea. Do we have any confirmation that the Update Aquatic is the next one coming though?
Great, so would you be able to make a highlighted poll thread today?
As for the update issue, I don't know. Update Aquatic will only be released around Spring next year, but no confirmation has come through that it and 1.3 are the same. I don't like guessing these things. But since the name has to be changed anyway, it seems right to choose now to start advertising the update.
Of course. But am I making one of those Google polls, or just an average wiki template kind of poll? Not that it's all that important, just wondering if you had a specific one in mind.
Alright, well just purely based off expectations that Update Aquatic will be next. I guess it doesn't hurt to get the advertising out early. After all, not sure what else would be coming if that update isn't anyway.
What would be the options for that poll? The reason I'm asking is that Bedrock edition is not actually used by the developers. It's the engine which is named Bedrock, not each of the different versions on the different platforms.
So we're currently having the Java Edition for the other version, and Bedrock or Bedrock engine (which you almost never see). I don't think using Bedrock Edition is a viable option.
I've not read anything indicating that Update Aquatic is actually going to be 1.3, and on the other hand I've not heard anything stating the opposite either. My point is that we don't really now the version number of it.
What we do know, though, is that they've announced that the super duper graphics pack is getting close. Whether this is going to have a major version of its own, or be incorporated along the way is unknown. I do think, that the super duper graphics pack is going to come before the Update Aquatic.
That's true.. So should we just leave out the poll then? Perhaps just change the name to "Minecraft Bedrock Wikia"? Because if there is no valid reason to use Bedrock Edition, then I think we should just stick with the latter. And in that case, a poll would not be required. Perhaps just a thread announcing the upcoming name change?
So are you saying we should advertise the Super Super Graphics Pack first? Then change it to the Update Aquatic afterwards? Kind of to hold off until we know if the Update Aquatic is next?
Regarding the poll, the official rename was from "Minecraft Pocket Edition" to "Minecraft". However, we can't do that change as minecraft.wikia.com is already in use.
Two other options could then be minecraftbedrock.wikia.com, or simply bedrock.wikia.com.
My personal opinion would be to keep mcpewiki.com, and let it redirect to bedrock.wikia.com.
There is also a question on who is in charge of the mcpewiki.com domain, and what should be done with that. (This also partly relates to the play.mcpewiki.com and cleanup related to the close down of Wikicraft)
Finally, I'm not sure on what to advertise and when to advertise.
I think minecraftbedrock.wikia.com would probably be better to use than bedrock.wikia.com, because it sounds more Minecraft related than the other. Although I do agree having mcpewiki.com redirect to the renamed site would be good. As for who's in charge though, wouldn't it be Dbl? Since he sort of still runs this place?
Well, we will probably advertise the Update Aquatic with a wiki theme, and logo for the wiki itself. As for when to do it, I'd say probably anytime now. The Update Aquatic has been revealed already. And if it is coming to PE in Update 1.3, like it probably is, then we should get the wiki themed for it.
If I may post my opinion here, some users may not realize bedrock.wikia.com is Minecraft-related, so they could not come here. I believe the best course of action would be to change it to minecraftbedrock.wikia.com, while keeping the old URL as a redirect.
I believe that the Update Aquatic/1.3 will be good to advertise, since it's coming out soon, it's been announced, and it seems like that a lot of hype has been surrounding it since Minecon Earth, and taking advantage of that hype right now would be good, I will certainly be doing that with the Minecraft PC Wiki. The Super Duper Graphics Pack is something which I haven't seen much hype for, most users probably either don't know it exists or don't care for it. This is not the case for 1.3.
And finally, I have a question. It appears like Darthwikia will not be coming back to this Wiki for a very long time, and advertising 1.3 through Twitter could be good. Does anyone else happen to have the Twitter password for the MCPE Wiki account?
So are we decided now? Minecraftbedrock.wikia.com is what we're doing? Because then a thread should be made to announce it. I don't know how long Fandom usually takes to reply to messages sent through contact/general, but it seems right to let everyone know in advance.
If I understand you correctly, if you are wanting to ask a question that you want people to see, you can try writing a blog post. If that doesn't work, you can come back here and inform me and I will see what else can be done.